Comparing poor white mountain residents with poor black Americans
Ponder mentions some reforms necessary to help the poor white mountain residents of western North Carolina. He also compares them to poor black Americans and credits them with admirable patience.
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Oral History Interview with Zeno Ponder, March 22, 1974. Interview A-0326. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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We still
don't have our pro-rata share up here in the mountains. When you look at
the county with the lowest income, you look at a little county like Clay
county. You look at the ones with the highest per capita income, one
happens to be here in the west. That's Haywood county. But by far and
large we have the poor here in the western part of the state. That's
poor white folks. You read about the ghettos and the
blacks—and I'm in the deepest of sympathy with the blacks and
I hesitate to say right now that I would have been even half as tolerant
as they were for the hundred years that they were in semi-slavery. I've
made this statement many times to my white friends. If I'd been black
I'd of raised hell a long time before they did. So . . .
- BILL FINGER:
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Some of them did. Some of them did and got shot for it.
- ZENO PONDER:
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Yeh, I . . .
- BILL FINGER:
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History hasn't been written about that.
- ZENO PONDER:
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Well, I would have tried to get the riots started before the day of
Martin Luther King if I'd of been born black. I'm confident I would
have. I just couldn't have been content to take that kind of treatment.
So I'm in deep sympathy with the blacks. But here in our area in the
mountains of North Carolina, western North Carolina, we simply have poor
white folks, and they have my very heartfelt
sympathy. And we've got to come to grips with the thing and bring in
enough industry in these rural, agrarian counties to keep our high
school graduates and bring back a few of our college graduates and still
not pollute our streams or our air. We can do this thing. And we can do
it best by having a progressive form of county and state government. You
just simply can't do it with the Republican party and the ideas of Louis
XIV.