Past experience aids Sanford's response to Duke student protests
As college president, Sanford handled the Duke student protests well in the 1960s by drawing on his experience working with civil rights demonstrators. Sanford maintained contact with students, and he shared their disapproval of the war.
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Oral History Interview with Terry Sanford, August 20 and 21, 1976. Interview A-0328-2. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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It was deliberate that I didn't come on duty April
1.
- BRENT GLASS:
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Why?
- TERRY SANFORD:
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It was April Fool's Day.
(laughter)
- BRENT GLASS:
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Are you superstitious?
- TERRY SANFORD:
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No, but I thought that was sort of fun, not to come to work on April
Fool's Day. But I went on the payroll April 2. During that other period,
when I was actually president, I wasn't being paid. Then of course,
immediately within a month came Cambodia and Kent State, but I was ready
for it. I knew what I was going to do under such circumstances. I did it
and it worked.
- BRENT GLASS:
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What made you ready for it? You suspected something like this? You had
seen it on other campuses?
- TERRY SANFORD:
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First of all, I liked students. I wasn't afraid of students. I understood
crowds and mobs and demonstrations from having been governor at the very
toughest period of demonstrations and I knew the way to handle the
students was to be one of them and that's the way we handled it. We got
away from this remoteness that most college presidents had followed and
the barricades that they gave their commands from behind. We simply
moved among the students and that gave us the rapport that was
necessary. It was tense, of course. But we didn't close down as some
did, didn't miss a class to my knowledge, unless some professor decided
that he didn't want to go. But it worked out very well and was extremely
fortunate, as it turned out, for me because within six weeks of coming
here I had totally established myself as being absolutely in charge of
everything. It helped me with alumni, trustees, students and the
faculty. Because it turned out, obviously, there was some luck in it,
but it turned out very, very well.
- BRENT GLASS:
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Did you think of the parallels ten years earlier with the civil rights .
. .
- TERRY SANFORD:
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Well, of course. And I knew then that I need not be afraid of those
people. I knew then that I could walk into those demonstrations and I
wasn't . . . certainly, with the hostility that you would have expected
from young blacks and demonstrators of that kind. Compare that with the
hostility of students, it's bound to have been far greater. So, I wasn't
the least bit afraid of students. You wouldn't remember this, but when
all the black students and demonstrators in North Carolina descended on
the mansion, they were demonstrating against the system, not against me.
When I went out there and moved among them, I knew that I had them,
because I knew what I had been doing was right and
they did, too. So, I knew very well here that I wouldn't have any
problem if we just treated them as people with a damn good complaint
against society and against the university. I told them, "I
have been against the war longer than you have and can prove it. I was
one of the few public figures to never be for the war." Even
McGovern was for the war briefly.