Comparing the Southern Regional Council and the Southern Conference
The Southern Regional Council and the Southern Conference shared similar goals but took different stances on segregation. The Council voted against Foreman's resolution to recognize integration in the YWCA. Yet the Council thrived while the Southern Conference failed due to political losses.
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Oral History Interview with Clark Foreman, November 16, 1974. Interview B-0003. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JACQUELYN HALL:
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What were the differences between the Southern Regional Council and the
Southern Conference in their tactics?
- CLARK FOREMAN:
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One big difference was that we came out from the very beginning against
segregation in the Southern Conference. We had to because of that
Birmingham situation. The Southern Regional Council, or Interracial
Commission, hedged around for a long long time on that question and
gradually came to it, I think someone said the other night, about 1951.
But I remember one meeting of the executive committee of the Southern
Regional Council when . . . in the '40s . . . when the YWCA came out
against segregation and said there would be no more segregation in any
of their cafeterias and so forth. And I proposed a
resolution, in the executive committee, of congratulations to the YWCA.
I thought well if we couldn't do it at least we could congratulate
somebody else who would. And it passed without any opposition. But then
I was asked to come out and speak to a class-one of the
classes at Morehouse College. So I left the meeting and went out to
speak to this class. When I came back I found out that somebody else, in
my absence, had introduced a resolution nullifying mine and cancelling
it out so that that was not passed. But that's how ticklish the
segregation question was even into the '40s.
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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What about economic issues?
- CLARK FOREMAN:
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Well, if you mean that . . . support . . . I suppose it was economic. But
it was fear. The man who introduced the resolution nullifying mine was a
Catholic priest from Savamah. Monsignor . . . something like that.
Economics was not in his mind so much as respectability. But as far as
the organization was concerned, if they had come out at that time
against segregation it would have been much harder for them to raise
money.
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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How do you account for the fact that the Southern Conference wasn't able
to survive while the Southern Regional Council survived and
prospered?
- CLARK FOREMAN:
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Well, the Southern Conference went down in '48 on the shoals of Wallace.
It went all out in the Wallace campaign and when that was such a fiasco
there was nothing for us to do but to fold up.
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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So you think it was a mistake for the Southern Conference to get so
involved in electoral politics in that particular campaign?
- CLARK FOREMAN:
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Well, in the sense that it was the end of the Southern Conference, maybe.
But on the other hand it was the only thing that we could do at that
time logically. Because that's what we had been building up to. Wallace
came out with our program. Wallace was the first candidate
for president to come to the South and speak to
unsegregated meetings everywhere he went. He spoke to unsegregated
meetings in every state in the South. It was a very valuable precedent
because since then no other candidate for president has had segregated
meetings. So if you say it is a mistake, it's just like saying to a
woman it's a mistake to get pregnant if the baby dies. As I see it,
there was nothing for us to do but to come out for Wallace. It was a
logical part of our program. We were very lucky to have Wallace come out
and sort of champion our cause.