Ames's efforts to maintain the Southern Regional Council
As a leader of the Southern Regional Council, Jessie Daniel Ames tried to revive interracial commissions in southern states while maintaining the Association of Southern Women for the Prevention of Lynching. But most members, especially black members, had already drifted away from the organization, and its funding was inadequate.
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Oral History Interview with Guy B. Johnson, December 16, 1974. Interview B-0006. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JACQUELYN HALL:
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What was she doing, exactly, at that time?
Dr. GUY B. JOHNSON:
She was, as I recall, carrying on correspondence with these various
women's groups that she was working with, through ASWPL, but nothing
very active in the field at the moment. I don't think that she went out
anywhere on any field trips. Well, I . . .
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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Well, she had been trying for the last few years of the Interracial
Commission to revive the state councils, the state interracial
commissions. Had she been successful in that at all, or . . .
Dr. GUY B. JOHNSON:
No, not much. They were all sort of declining. Partly, I think, this was
financial, in that the Southern Commission for quite a while, you know,
had a fair sized budget and could give a little bit to the states, but
the General Commission budget in Atlanta decreased, and as we mentioned
the other day, Dr. Alexander was gone practically all the time. So,
there was some lack of leadership at the top and some lack of interest
in seeing that they got funded as they had been. And the result was that
the state commissions were not getting as much help as they had been.
And then also, their newness, I think, had worn off and many people had
gotten sort of tired and disillusioned with them. They didn't have very
much that they saw that they could do, except hold meetings and talk.
And many of the blacks, of course, had gotten fairly disillusioned with
these things.
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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Do you remember how that was expressed? I mean, do you remember
particular blacks . . .
Dr. GUY B. JOHNSON:
Oh, mostly, they just stopped coming to the meetings. And I'm sure that
in several of the state commissions, the meetings just dwindled down to
almost nothing. So, these things were dying on the vine and there wasn't
much chance of trying to revive them, unless you had some more vital
program and you had some money, especially some
money. And here, the SRC was in a bind also, because it didn't have any
money. Do you know what our budget was that first year?
- JACQUELYN HALL:
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What?
Dr. GUY B. JOHNSON:
About $40,000. Today, that would pay the executive director's
salary, George Esser, for a year.