Busing played no role in consolidation question
Fleming's memory is hazy on the issue, but he does not believe that busing played a major role in deciding the consolidation question.
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Oral History Interview with J. Carlton Fleming, [date unknown]. Interview B-0068. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- BILL MOYE:
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It seemed to have been one of the major issues . . .As far as ward
politics, and inability to find qualified candidates in all the
districts, and that sort of argument. That also seems
to sort of tie in with the whole school busing controversy. An
unwillingness or an unease about having more black representation. There
seemed to have been . . .The question was brought up anyway that the
vote be postponed because of the school busing controversy. All the
emotions and the agitation over the thing. From the way it turned out,
and maybe this is Monday-morning quarterbacking, it seems that if the
vote had been later maybe some of this agitation and this racial feeling
might have died down.
- J. CARLTON FLEMING:
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I really wonder if the school busing question had much of an impact on
this thing, Bill. I would be inclined to doubt it. Not that that was a
pleasant episode for this community. It was anything but. I really doubt
that the busing situation would have had any impact on the consolidation
proposal had the consolidation proposal been simple and had it not
involved districts. If you had retained at-large elections and kept the
number of representatives on the legislative body at about what it was,
that is, twelve, give or take two or three, I really question that the
busing situation would have had much to do with it. Again, I'm trying to
put that in focus. When did we first have our busing order here?
- BILL MOYE:
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The actual decision was, I believe, the 23rd of April of 1969. That was
just when the mayor, or Brookshire and Lowe were appointing members of
the commission. Between there and `671 were the various court devisions.
I guess the fall of '70 was the big . . .
- J. CARLTON FLEMING:
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When was the consolidation vote? What was the date of that?
- BILL MOYE:
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March of '71. The schools had started with the busing in the fall of '70,
and this was eight or almost at the end of that first school year. .
- J. CARLTON FLEMING:
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I don't think the public here would have turned down consolidation
per se because of what had gone on on that busing
contreversy. I may be wrong, and you're probably going to get some
opposite opinions on that subject, but I just doubt that seriously. I
really think it was inherent in the other things we talked about. I
think if there had never been a school busing case here the results
would have been virtually the same as we had. I don't think there was an
impact.