Merger of Rocky Mount public schools and its impact on outside business interests
Pearsall discusses the tense and racially charged school merger in Rocky Mount in 1992. He argues that outside industries avoided building in Rocky Mount because of the perception of inadequate schools and the racially tense school merger battle. Pearsall maintains that globalization will yield integration in order to develop a skilled, educated workforce, capable of competing with other regions economically.
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Oral History Interview with Mack Pearsall, May 25, 1988. Interview C-0057. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- WALTER E. CAMPBELL:
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Do you see that happening with the school merger issue at this point?
Could you tell us a little bit about the merger issue? Your role in it?
Is this kind of an extension of, again, some of the problems your father
might have faced with the Pearsall Plan?
- MACK PEARSALL:
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Yeah, I wouldn't be so bold to suggest that it's a
contemporary equivalent but I would say on a microcosm, on sort of a
micro basis, it has a lot of similarities. What we have going on here is
a battle that I've been involved in for ten years. The battle
basically consists of the fact that Rocky Mount has the uniquely
disadvantageous distinction of sitting astride a county line which means
that it's politically emasculated in terms of its powers east
and west. Because we're not a city of 50,000 people,
we're two cities, one of 25, one of 15,000, or 35 and 15,000.
Probably about fifteen, maybe ten years ago, up until ten years ago,
there'd been a release program between
Nash County and Rocky Mount where whenever Rocky Mount expanded its city
limits, the county would release the children that lived in that area to
go to school in the Rocky Mount school district. At least from my
standpoint—and I think there is plenty of evidence that will
support it, which we will have to bring out as evidence in
court—the termination of the county's land and
student release policy was racially motivated.
Nash County for racial reasons decided that they were going to stop that
release program because they saw that what they were getting into their
system at long last were white middle-class affluent parents who had an
interest in PTAs and in their children's education. The
county decided not to let the Rocky Mount school system grow at all and
to take all those people into their system because that would help the
transition from being a rural system into a combination with more of an
urban favor to it and more political clout because these are the people
who've got political clout. Well, the reverse of that is they
locked up the Rocky Mount school system, and through white flight, the
Rocky Mount school system has gone from a system that would be racially
reflective of the Rocky Mount city population to where it's
now about 80% black and 20% white. And that is a great disadvantage for
this area because of the perception of remediality of any school system
that is that racially imbalanced. We feel, that is the business
community feels, that that perception has in fact cost us a lot of
economic development activity here because we've been
red-lined by certain national industry location firms because of the
fact that there's a controversy going on. There
are racial overtones to this thing, and a national company
doesn't want to be a part of a community that has racial
overtones to it.
My God, we've just gone through integrating one of our two
local country clubs. I bet we've got the only fully
integrated country club except maybe Chapel Hill, I would say, outside
of an area like a Chapel Hill, which is a very enlightened community
that's ahead of most areas in the state from the standpoint
of race relations. We've just gone through integrating one of
the two country clubs here in town on a full membership and utilization
basis which is unheard of in eastern North Carolina. The reason we did
it is because I was traveling on the road this summer, and Bill Friday
called me and said that Irwin Miller, chairman emeritus of Cummings
Engine Company that has a $355 million dollar in Nash County,
called him up and said that the race relations and morale of their local
plant was so bad because the black executives could not join the country
club in Rocky Mount, that something had to be done. We happened to catch
that country club at a point where it was on the verge of near
bankruptcy, and the Rocky Mount business community came to the new buyer
and said, "If you will come in with a fully integrated program
for membership and utilization, we will support you." And next
week we're probably going to give him $400,000 to
help him make that "the" club in town. Now, that is an
enlightened move on the part of this community to get shed of some
antebellum shackles. 'Cause you can't have a
community that doesn't accept black executives and expect
companies to come here. They can't
promote people through here when they've got to say, well,
we'll promote but you've got to go to Rocky Mount
and you can't do that. You've got Hardees food
system with a lot of black executives. You've got a lot of
black executives that come into town that are executives for them in
other areas of the country.
They come in and they can't even play golf. I mean, this is
ridiculous in 1988. So we've been able to integrate that. And
that's one of the major strides, we think, towards making
this community more wide open. I got a letter the other day from the
first black to play golf at that country club telling me how much he
enjoyed it, and I sent a copy to Mr. Miller, I said, "Mr.
Miller," I put my handwritten note on it, I said, "You
know, this makes life worth living and right worth fighting
for." And he sent me a personal letter back saying how much he
appreciated what we'd done in Rocky Mount. But
that's another manifestation of the fact that
you've got a hold over in this area among some very short
sighted people of an anti-black attitude. That they should be separate
but equal. And you've got county commissioners in this day
and time saying that blacks ought to be in separate schools.
The great advantage of the school fracas is that the values of housing on
the east side of Rocky Mount is going downhill so blacks can finally
afford housing over there. Well, that isn't what we need in
this area. What we need is, and is to our strategic advantage,
sustainable competitive advantage as we see it long term in this area,
is a superior educational system for this two-county area. Because we
understand why the northeastern United States
beats our brains out. They've spent so much more money, over
the years, properly funding the human resource at the primary and
secondary levels all the way through school. That they have a very
literate and numerate work force, and we do not. And unless we deal with
that, we're not going to be competitive in this world
economy. Hell, they can move plants offshore and do it a lot cheaper
than we can do it here. It used to be that we had cheap labor but now if
you've got cheap labor that is less educated than third world
labor, they're not coming here because these people are not
smart enough to run sophisticated machines.
So it all weaves back to this transition of these blacks coming off the
farms and being integrated early on into this industry at menial levels,
in sewing operations and things that don't require a lot of
skills. Now, the maturation of the economy in the world and the fact
that it's become a global economy, is forcing eastern North
Carolina to face up to the fact that it is going to have to change its
ways if its going to be competitive long term from an economic
development standpoint. Because we just can't compete with
cheap labor. We just cannot do it for what they can do it for in China
or do it for in India and other areas of the world. It's
really a social-economic sort of reordering of priorities down here when
you change a country club. And that doesn't sound like big
business to a guy in New Jersey. That's big business down in
eastern North Carolina. And the school fight is over giving every child
in this two—county area an opportunity for top quality
education so we can have a labor pool that is smart enough to allow us
to be able to induce industry to come in. And
there are still people who are saying, "Well, blacks
don't have the inherent capacity to learn and we need to keep
them over there in the separate schools." We can't
stand that type of mentality.