The National Women's Conference of 1977
Rorher describes the National Women's Conference held in Houston, Texas, in 1977. Elected to head up the North Carolina delegates, Rorher talks about the different women who attended the conference—including three first ladies and feminist leaders such as Bella Abzug and Gloria Steinem—and she explains how the delegates to the conference represented diverse views. Especially divisive issues included the Equal Rights Amendment and abortion. Rorher seems to retrospectively see this as a pivotal moment during which the movement began to "fizzle." In this regard, she discusses the importance of strong leadership and the role of power within the movement.
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Oral History Interview with Grace Jemison Rohrer, March 16, 1989. Interview C-0069. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- KATHY NASSTROM:
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'77, in Houston. Okay, that's interesting. Because now I'm thinking I saw
that on your resume, that you went as a North Carolina delegate to
Houston. Would you just talk a bit about that. I think that's
interesting.
- GRACE JEMISON ROHRER:
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Well, I was appointed, as the others were, by President Ford to head up
the state committee for the International Women's Year. And we were to
have a state meeting, and Libby Koontz, Elizabeth Koontz, was chair of
that, and we had our state meeting and elected the delegates to the
National Conference, and I was elected to lead that delegation, which I
did. I didn't get as much out of the conference as others did because I
was taking care of these twenty-some women.
(Laughter)
I forget how many were in the delegation. It was quite an
experience. It was an emotional experience as well as a strong political
experience. They had the running of the torch starting from Seneca Falls
that ran down to Houston, and Billy Jean King was on the last lap and
ran up to it, and that was very exciting. There were twenty-six
resolutions that the states had been asked to take action upon, which
were then brought to the national convention. Most of the women there
were feminists, but you had delegates from, especially the southern
states, that were strong anti-feminists. In fact, South Carolina had
quite a battle, even men getting involved in their delegate selection.
You know, grabbing the mikes away from each other. We got a warning up
in North Carolina that some of these people who had tried to disrupt the
South Carolina meeting were coming up to disrupt ours. We
were prepared for anything. I don't know that this happened
in other states, but it did happen in several southern states, in which
there was a great deal of fear of what was going to happen at that
women's conference and an attempt to take over the delegate slots so
that their points of view would be presented. And that's fine if that's
the way that the state wants it, but it was the way they went around
doing it. It was really rather frightening when you saw how desperate
they were. So we met in this tremendous hall. I don't know how many
women were there, maybe several thousand. The three wives of presidents,
Betty Ford, Mrs. Carter, and Mrs. Johnson, were there on the platform.
Of course, Bella Abzug was running the thing, and Gloria Steinem was
very much involved. Maya Angelo, Gloria Scott, who's now president of
Bennett College here, was involved. And we had several day's sessions,
going through these twenty-six categories and developing the
recommendations that we were going to be taken to President Carter,
asking him for support and for these things to be legislatively enacted
where necessary or administratively enacted where necessary. So we went
through them, and we voted. The abortion issue was the most emotional,
and it continues to be, of course. And one thing that interested me in
North Carolina was when the abortion issue came up, about half of the
delegates voted against it and most of them were black. And I think many
times we see that it's the blacks that are pushing for abortion, mainly
because of the effort to get money for women on welfare or poor women
who need an abortion and can't have it. But that wasn't true. There were
a lot of blacks that were against abortion. The
delegation that sat immediately in front of us was from Utah, and they
were Mormons. The Mormon Church had come out against the Equal Rights
Amendment, and these women, I don't know that all of them did, when that
vote came, stood up for it and the whole place went crazy.
[Laughter]
It was so emotional, and then they started singing, "We
Shall Overcome," and they just rushed over to that delegation
and embraced them. Because they had said, "Don't decide what
we're going to be for and what we're against. We will decide."
And as they supported various things it was obvious that these were very
strong women, and they were going to make up their own minds. So you
came away with a tremendous feeling of camaraderie, that we were all out
there. And even with the women that were there that were trying to
disrupt it because their views were different, they were there and they
had a right to be there. And maybe they were so frustrated, they don't
know how else to do it, and maybe that's the only way they could get
their foot in the door, is to just fight as brutally as they could to
get into it. And of course, after that they printed all this up and took
it to President Carter. And we had a meeting in Washington after that,
which disappointed me very much. Because as they voted on the leadership
of who should be involved in presenting this and following this up, the
women that got it were not the ones that could do it.
- KATHY NASSTROM:
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Why was that?
- GRACE JEMISON ROHRER:
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Because there was a strong, well, this has to be just my perception
because I had watched this unfold. I think there's
often a resentment against leaders, against the Bella Abzugs and the
Gloria Steinems. They're out there. They have all this attention. And
you have people in there who are hungry to get involved, and they gang
up against them. It was a faction like this that were pushing in women
that had no business being in there. Not because there was anything
wrong with them, but they did not have the constituency. They did not
have the power. They did not have the recognition that would enable them
to push for some of these things. And it just sort of fizzled in a way.
I think it was picked up, but I saw it fizzling there. This is one thing
that I think we as women have to learn, which I think men know, is that
we go where the power is and we work with the power that we have. We
have to be tough on that. And that means sometimes leaving people out.
I'm a member of Women Executives in State Government, and these are
women who have been in cabinet level positions. They're women of power,
and they have gotten there and they continue to be there because they
are tough and they've made the hard decisions. And while they are
working for women in many, many ways, women is not the issue. It's
staying in and having the clout and the power, because only then can
they bring other women into it. And they're not soft on anything, and
they say it like it is and they're forcing women to recognize that
there's sometimes decisions you have to make that may not be the ones
you would like to make but they're the ones that are going to help you
survive. And if you survive, then it means that others will survive.