Getting recognition of union as collective bargaining unit
Pedigo describes how he finagled recognition of the union he helped to organize for American Viscose textile workers in 1931 and 1932. He explains how initially he and the other organizers had trouble getting very many of the plant's 4500 workers interested in unionization—many were fearful of the consequences of unionization. In the midst of their organizing endeavors, however, the plant manager caught wind of what they were doing. Pedigo describes how he worked this situation to his advantage, garnering recognition of the union as a collective bargaining organization and, consequently, boosting enrollment in the union.
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Oral History Interview with Joseph D. Pedigo, April 2, 1975. Interview E-0011-1. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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Well, as I said, the conditions, the lack of dignity that you had in the
plant, you were just constantly harassed by supervision and I think that
was the motivating thing with most people. The fact that we had the best
job around, if we got fired there, there was no place to go that paid
anything comparable to what we were making and the company knew it and
as a result of the company knowing it …
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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They kind of had you in a bind.
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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They had us in a bind and we just got tired of it. I recall the first
meeting that we had, we held it uptown and I slipped around to
thirty-five or forty people that I trusted and told them about the
meeting. Not a one showed up, there were just the same old faithful
seven.
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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Seven people, in a plant of 4500?
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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Yes. So, I finally decided that the reason that nobody showed up was that
each one was afraid of the other. So, the next meeting that we had, I
went up to a guy and ask him to come to the meeting and he would want to
know who was coming and I would say, "Well, you are the only
one from this shop. There is going to be somebody from viscose and
somebody from engineering." He would say,
"O.K.," and I would tell the next fellow the same
thing. At the next meeting, I had about twenty people, but each one of
them was scared of the other one. That's
why they hadn't shown up the first time. But we
didn't have anybody in the union to speak of, we had about
800 when the company called our hand. I was the temporary President of
the group, we were collecting dues, so the secretary-treasurer worked in
the same shop that I did and the foreman came up to me one day in the
spinning room and said, "They want you up at the front
office." I stepped off the platform and I saw this guy who was
the secretary-treasurer step off the other end of the platform and he
saw me and waited on me, he had had the same message, so we knew what
was up before we got there. We walked in the office, the plant manager
was a German, very abrupt, I had a lot of respect for him later on, but
at the time I didn't. He didn't even invite us to
sit down. He said, "What is this that I hear about a union
starting up down here?" I looked at this other boy and he
looked at me and I decided that well, it had hit the fan now and I might
as well go on with it. I said, "Well, I don't know
what you've been hearing, there is a union down here, if that
is what you want to know." "Why haven't
they been to see me. I thought they were to bargain with the
management?" I said, "Well, that's true,
but I'll be honest with you. The reason that we
haven't been to see you was that we wanted to make sure that
we had enough people in the union that if you fired us when we did come
to see you, you weren't going to be able to make silk, and
I'm glad you sent for us, because we are in that position
now." He went through quite a long rigamarole about why did we
need a union, his office was always open and we countered by telling him
that it was a pretty long way from number six spinning room to his
office and by the time that you got there, a telephone call would always
beat you there. We had had a little experience with that. Finally, I saw
that he wasn't going to fire us and I
thought, "Well, we might as well start trying to push our luck
a little bit more," and I said, "Well look, Mr.
Nerrin, the fellows are looking for me back down there in that spinning
room and if I don't get back down there pretty soon,
something is liable to happen and I wouldn't want
that." You couldn't have pulled those people out of
there with a locomotive.
[laughter]
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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You were a pretty good bluffer for a young whippersnapper,
weren't you?
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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I said, "I've got to tell them something when I get
back, so are you going to recognize us or not?" He said,
"Of course I recognize it, there is no darn sense in the damn
thing, but I recognize it." We went back and spread the word
and rented the American Legion Hall and had people standing up on the
sidewalks all the way up the steps and lined up on the sidewalks like an
unemployment line, waiting to join the union. We organized that thing
overnight.
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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That's amazing.
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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It was just on his word.
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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This was 1931?
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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Yeah, '31. '32 was the first contract.
- WILLIAM FINGER:
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So, he signed a contract?
- JOSEPH PEDIGO:
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The contract said … it was then called the Viscose Corporation
of Virginia … "The Viscose Corporation of Virginia
hereby recognizes Local 18 … "whatever it was,
… "as a collective bargaining agency for such people
as are members of it." Period.