Decision to become a seminarian
Murray discusses her decision to become a seminarian and to become a candidate for the Holy Orders. According to Murray, her decision was partly fueled by growing militancy within both the civil rights and women's liberation movements. Murray explains that her views on liberation and justice were quite similar to those of Martin Luther King Jr. Like King, Murray believed that reconciliation amongst people was the best path towards equality and she felt that the seminary offered the best environment for pursuing these ends.
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Oral History Interview with Pauli Murray, February 13, 1976. Interview G-0044. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- GENNA RAE MCNEIL:
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Now finally, in terms of career, it is very interesting to me that you
have returned to writing, but more significantly that in 1973, you
resigned the professorship to become a candidate for the priesthood, or
at least to become a seminarian, first at General Theological Seminary
and then at Virginia Theological Seminary in Alexandria, Virginia and
what I would like to know, is there any connection between your decision
to become a seminarian and ultimately seek ordination to the priesthood
and your concern about sex discrimination in the United States and if
so, what? If not, is this at all connected with your general
pioneering efforts in the struggle for societal change?
- PAULI MURRAY:
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This question about the relationship to sex discrimination is one which I
have asked myself. I think I can honestly say, "No. It is not
directly connected, or it was not directly motivated by my interest in
sex discrimination." When I applied to become a candidate for
Holy Orders, the reading that I had at that time, in early 1973, was a
very positive and encouraging one in respect to women in the priesthood.
Therefore, I did not expect, I completely miscalculated the controversy
that was to arise as a result of the non-decision of the General
Convention of the Episcopal Church in the fall of 1973. I think that I
can truthfully say that my decision to become a candidate for Holy
Orders is much more closely related to my feeling of standing in the
tradition of Martin Luther King, Jr. and my strong conviction that
basically, all of these problems of human rights in which I had been
involved for most of my adult life, sex, race, all of the problems of
human rights, that basically these were moral and spiritual problems.
And I think that I was driven more into this position when I saw that
the particular profession to which I had devoted the larger sector of my
life, law, was …that we had reached a point where law could
not give us the answers. You know, here we are, the busing controversy
in Boston. I began to see women, feminists, behaving in the same hostile
extreme way that I had seen black militants. Instead of the
possibilities of reconciliation, there seemed to be even greater and
greater alienation and to me it was important to keep the tradition of
Martin Luther King alive and this all seemed to point toward my
witnessing where my conviction was. And if my conviction is a spiritual
conviction, then I should witness in that way and make it clear where I
am standing. Moreover, it seemed to me as I looked back over my life
that I was being pointed in the direction of the
priesthood or service to the church. It seemed to me that it came out in
my writings, it came out in my speeches, it came out in my rather
steadfast devotion to the notion of reconciliation as well as
liberation. I asked myself, "What do you want to do with the
time that you have left?" This seems to be the
answer.
- GENNA RAE MCNEIL:
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Now, when you speak of the tradition of Martin Luther King, you are
emphasizing primarily what? The notion of nonviolence and
Christian love, brotherhood or what?
- PAULI MURRAY:
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It seemed to me that Martin Luther King stood for two things. He stood
for liberation, which is the contemporary term, but he also stood for
the possibility of reconciliation between people, among peoples. He was
not satisfied to merely enter into the struggle. He would call it, and
in Christian terms we would call it, "salvation."
After he died, the notion of reconciliation was almost discarded in the
black militant stance. My feeling is that if this country is to survive,
we must live together in harmony and we must live together in a spirit
of harmony, you can call it brotherhood or whatnot. We cannot survive as
a divided country. Therefore, there is a need for people to be involved
with and concerned about reconciliation even as we are working on
liberation. One's concern for reconciliation …
[interruption]
…I was saying that there is a need for people who are
as concerned about reconciliation as they are liberation from racism or
from sexism and one's concern about reconciliation will
affect the quality and the way in which one approaches the problem of
liberation. This is where I am today.