A former farm family wonders if moving to town was a good decision
In September 1929, Norman and her brothers began work at the Linksburg Mill. Norman struggled to tie a weaver's knot, but she eventually mastered the process with help from her boss. Her boss was a terror when he grew angry, but he treated Norman kindly. As Norman's family fought to make ends meet, they wondered if they had made a mistake selling their farm.
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Oral History Interview with Icy Norman, April 6 and 30, 1979. Interview H-0036. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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Me and Barney and Dewey went to work
Monday morning. That was the twentieth day of September, 1929. Barney
and Dewey went to making money right off. They carried me over there to
Dewey McBride. He was weighing up yarn. He told Dewey, "I want
you to fix a place for this little girl. She's going to learn
to wind. Give her two spools of thread and show her how to tie the
weaver's knot." If I had knowed that I had to have
done that…. You see, Mama was a weaver. If I had knowed I had
to work through all that rigmarole learning to tie that knot, my mama
could have showed me and I could already know. I sat over on that old
box all day long tying old weaver's knot. I thought,
I'll never make it. Jim Copland come by and Old Man Smith,
they come by and they set down there. Jim says,
"How's my little girl doing?" I says,
"Mr. Copland, I ain't doing. I can't tie
that knot." And he set there and watched me. The more they
watched me, the scareder I got. I never could do nothing with nobody
looking right at me. Can you?
- MARY MURPHY:
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No.
- ICY NORMAN:
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So he had showed me how to tie it. And I sat on that old box two days.
When I started home, Dewey MacBride give me two spools of thread with
just a little bit of rayon on it. Says, "You take this home,
and you practice this tonight." And I said, "Well,
I'll take it, but I'll never tie that knot. Why
can't you just tie a knot like this?" He says,
"You can't do that, Icy. It's got to be a
weaver's knot. It can't be
no chickenhead knot." Well, I went home and I set down there
and I started after supper. I told Mama, "Mama, I've
had to do this all day long. I can't tie it." Well,
Mama showed me how to tie it. You know, you're supposed to
tie a weaver's knot on that middle finger and the thumb, and
hold it with this finger. I couldn't do that. Mama would show
me. She could just shut her eyes and just tie them just as fast.
- MARY MURPHY:
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Where had your mother worked?
- ICY NORMAN:
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My mother worked in the woolen mill after her first husband died. She
rolled the sample blankets there at the woolen mill. She was the one
that made the samples that the salesmen took out on the road. She set
there and she showed me. I said, "Well, that's the
way they said I had to do it at the mill, but it won't do for
me." So I kept messing. Next day, on the old box I sat. Well, I
sat there. The more I studied about that thing, the more I hated that.
Oh, I hated that mill. Ooh, how I hated it: And I thought,
"Well, if this is all they got for me to do, I don't
want it." I went home and I was crying. Mama says,
"What are you crying about?" I says, "Because
I can't tie that old knot." And she says,
"I've told you how to tie it, and I've
showed you how to tie it. That's the only way you can tie a
weaver's knot." I said, "Mama,
there's a way you can tie that knot. I don't care
what they say. There's a way that I can tie that knot and
it's a weaver's knot, and it's all the
same thing." She said, "No, you've got to
tie it and make your loop around it, take this finger and hold it, and
bring it through." I set down there. She said, "I want
you to hush up that crying." I says, "Mama, I wisht I
was back in Linksburg. I hate it up there." I says, "I
wish I was either in the mill there or back up
there at Craddock and Terry's Shoe Factory." I went
to work there in Craddock and Terry's Shoe Factory in
Linksburg, and I made pretty good there. But Mama, because the cotton
mill was running slack…. You see, in the meantime, when we
wasn't hunting a job, Dooley Carter had let me work up there
in the shoe factory. Dooley was a fixer in the shoe factory there at
Elkin, and he let me work when we wasn't on the road hunting
a job. I had a good opportunity, but Mama wouldn't let me
take it on account of Barney and Dewey. No, mnm-mm. So she says,
"Sometimes I think we might have made a mistake. But things are
going to work out. It's got to get better." And Mama
was a good Christian woman, and she says, "You just forget
about it. I have prayed about it, and I've left it in the
Lord's hands. And the Lord ain't going to make no
mistakes, and the Lord is going to look after us. We might not have the
best; we're not promised nothing but bread and water. You
read the Bible; it says the Lord promised us bread and water. All the
finery and all the fine eating…. The Lord just promised us
bread and water. And I'm looking to Him. I don't
have no doubts." I couldn't figure it out, and I
just cried and I just cried. Well, I went ahead, and you know, one day
there on that box, I was doing my best to do like the bossman told me,
and that thing would slide out with me every time. So all at once
something come to me just like it spoke: Tie it on your forefinger. And
I looked down at that forefinger, and I fixed that thread just like I
fixed it on you. I put it on there; instead of taking this finger and
holding that down like that, I took this finger and
held it down. And you know one thing? I'd tie them
things as fast as you could wink an eye. And there
come Jim Copland and Old Man Smith. And I thought, "Lord, I
better not let them see me do that." Well, I went back. Oh,
Lordy. I hated it; I hated it so bad. Jim Copland says, "Well,
how's my little girl doing? You can tie that knot now,
can't you?" I says, "If you'll
let me tie it the way I want to tie it, I can tie it." He
looked at me, and he said, "What do you mean? It has got to be
absolutely a weaver's knot, and it can't be
clipped. You've got to leave it a half an inch after you clip
it." Well, you know you had your scissors stuck on this finger.
You kept your scissors on your hand all the time, never took them
scissors off. You run that finger through there, and there you clipped
it. And I tried and tried. I says, "I can't tie
it." And I says, "Well, let me show you
how…. Something told me to tie it like this." He
looked at me so funny. He says, "‘Something told
you’!" I said, "Yes. Something told me to
tie it on my forefinger." He said, "Well, let me see
what you're talking about." I'd put that
thing down there and I'd just tie them and I'd
just tie them, and he looked at that knot, and he said, "Do it
slow." I got so I could do it just as fast. And I did. I fixed
it on this finger just like I done on that, but I couldn't
tie it on that. I fixed it, put it down…
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- ICY NORMAN:
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Just hugged his neck. He is just like a daddy to me. Because he has been
in our home and went to our table. Sat down and eat whatever we had on
the table. He acted like he was just tickled to death with it.
- MARY MURPHY:
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I heard he was a pretty rough man.
- ICY NORMAN:
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He was hateful. Now, if he liked you, he liked you. That's the
kind of man he was. He was a regular old tyrant if you made him mad.
And old man Smith, now he was a fair old scratch.
I've seen him pick his hat off. He'd had great big
old chewing tobacco that big. Him and old Spivey
, too. I've seen them get mad. They'd pull their
old hat off, throw it down and spit in it and jump on that hat and stomp
it. Yeah, Mr. Copland, he was a bird if he was mad. And boy, he was
strict. But he never did say one harm word, what I mean, like he was mad
at me or anything.
- MARY MURPHY:
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What kind of things would get him mad?
- ICY NORMAN:
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That would make him mad? If you done anything on the job he thought you
wasn't supposed to, he would tell you right now what he
thought. And it would have to be done right.