Reflections on community changes
Baker reflects on changes in the Conover, North Carolina, community from the mid-1950s up to the time of the interview. According to Baker, Conover had experienced decisive growth and he perceived many of the changes as positive. In particular, Baker sites internal improvements and school integration as two signs of positive progress.
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Oral History Interview with Oscar Dearmont Baker, June 1977. Interview H-0110. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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How do you think
Conover's changed over the years?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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Oh, wonderful.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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You think it's great?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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Yes. I do.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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It's gotten a lot bigger?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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I think so.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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What kind of good things have happened to this area?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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They've improved the roads and things down here, and it looks
like they try to do everything they can afford to do.
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And as far as the town as a whole, I think they's
doing wonderful. That's the way I feel about it. Of course,
everybody don't have the same idea about it. But still you
don't know it all. Maybe there's some sides of the
town that they've omitted doing work. I don't know
about that. But it's usually that way in all towns; you
don't get them all pleased.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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How do you think this community around here has changed over the last
twenty years or so, like the good roads? Do you see a change in any of
the people?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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Some I do, and then, like we was talking a while ago, and some of them I
don't. And it's the younger group that try to get
something for nothing. You see more of that now everywhere.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Why do you think people think that way now?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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They've just got everything handed to them mostly on a silver
platter, and they just don't care is the only way I can work
it out. And they don't want to work. That's just
the way I feel about it.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Has this community gotten bigger over the years?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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Oh, yes.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Are there a lot of people that move out, or do most of them just stay
around?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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It would be more coming in here if they had a place for them to come.
We've got a new settlement right over there, and
it's full. You can go right that road there and turn and go
on down that way and go out, and they just completed here a couple of
weeks ago hard-surfacing the road out there.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Are those brick houses single dwellings?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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Some of them has panel stuff on, and then they are bricked up. And there
are some nice homes out there.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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I was out there with a friend of mine that worked on construction one
year, and we went out there rock-hunting one time.
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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The Hedrick boy?
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Yes.
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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His daddy's the one that built them.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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I bet so. I went with Don or Ken, one of those. They found a place where
they could find these real shiny rocks, so we were out there looking
around. And I knew it was out here, but it was about four or five years
ago, and I hadn't been out here since then. How about the
schools around here? How do you think the schools have changed?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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I guess the way it is, it's for the better. Like I said a
while ago, some will like it and some won't. You mean the
integration business?
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Yes.
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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I think as a whole it's all right. But you know, with
everything you go at, everybody isn't going to be
pleased.
- PATTY DILLEY:
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Around here, were they for the integration, or were they against it?
- OSCAR DEARMONT BAKER:
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I'd say there was more for it than there was against it.