Recalling Depression-era relief work
Deal recalls doing "relief work," maybe for the Works Progress Administration, during the Great Depression. This anecdote may be more amusing than informative, but it offers a look at Depression-era employment. Deal describes a confrontation with his supervisor and his talent at building fires.
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Oral History Interview with Hoy Deal, July 3 and 11, 1979. Interview H-0117. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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I worked on the relief work back during the Compression [sic] when you
couldn't hardly get no work, you know, here in Hickory. That was later
years, after I'd moved to Hickory. What little bit you got, you had to
take it out in groceries and stuff. I've helped digging ditches and
everything all around over here around the town of Brookford, digging
ditches and cutting out thickets. He was digging some ditches around
over in there behind the old Brookford Cotton Mill, and old Mr. Jim
Hart—he's dead now—was another one of them men
that come around a-short-talking and cussed lots, and he didn't do no
work. He carried a little old stick, like, made with a chair and a
walking cane made together. He'd set that three legs down and set that
walking stick back and sit down on it, and he could shut that up and go
around and use it for a walking stick when he had it shut up, too. And
he come around there one day and …
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… and said something to me. He told me to backfill somewhere
else or something, and he commenced to cussing. And I didn't like that a
litle bit. I said, "You're an old man. You can come around and
tell me what to do, but don't cuss when you talk to me. If you do, I'll
take this shovel and trim your ears off." And he went on down
the ditch. There was another boss under him, and he went on down the
hill and told the other boss about it, and he come up there and said,
"What got the matter with you and Jim?" I said,
"Well, he come up here telling me to do something and was
cussing and a-snorting, and I told him that if he went to cussing me or
cussing when he was talking to me, that I'd cut his ears off with that
shovel." And he said, "Well, go ahead and do what you
was doing." And directly, old man Jim come back up the ditch
then, and he said, "Little Deal, you go up on the hillside.
Take your shovel along and go up on the hillside and pick up all of the
loose tools that we ain't a-using." It was geting up pretty
close to quitting time. "And pile them up in a pile up there
where the truck can get to them. And when you get that done, if the
truck ain't come just stay up there and wait till the truck
comes." And so after that, when old man Jim come around me he
was quiet.
[Laughter]
And when we got through with that work up there, we went to the Hickory
Airport up here and went to working on the Hickory Airport, building it
bigger. And old man Jim would come around every morning. It was getting
cold weather then, and we was cutting brush and grubbing out stumps and
stuff, and we was burning it as we piled it up. We'd pile it up in piles
and burn it. And he come around up there and said, "Little
Deal, you're the only one that seems to know how to pile brush so
they'll burn up. What about you keeping the brush
put on the fire and keeping me a good fire going so we can burn all this
trash and stuff up? They have everybody piling brush, just crosses them
up every way, you know, and they won't burn up. They just burn a hollow
out from underneath of it, and it won't burn up. You seem to be the only
one that knows how to pile stuff on there so it'll burn up, and I need a
fire to warm my toes by all the time." So he put me to just
carrying the brush. I didn't have to do any more grubbing or digging or
nothing. People'd dig them up, and I'd carry them and pile them on that
fire and keep the fire a-going. I stayed around the fire about all the
time. I didn't do much except taking around a drink of water once in a
while. When it was cold weather, they didn't need much water. And I'd
always carry the stuff and keep it piled up on the fire. And every
morning, if the fire had went plumb out, I'd start a fire up and start
putting stuff on the fire. You know, if you cross brush up like that,
it'll just hollow out, but if you lay it all the same way and keep it
packed down, it'll burn completely up all the time. And I kept him a
fire built all the time. And on up when warm weather come, after we got
through burning brush and stuff and went to digging ditches and stuff
like that, about all I done was carry water around.
[Laughter]
That old man, he seen he couldn't get by with nothing and pull
nothing over me, and so he went to taking sides with me kind of, too.
Because I just wouldn't take nothing off of nobody. And when people got
wrong with me, I got wrong with them.