Impact of rapidly growing Latino population
de-Heer situates the growing Latino population within broader changes in the Hopkins Street community in Durham, North Carolina, in the 1980s and 1990s. According to de-Heer, little effort had been made at that point to more fully incorporate Latinos into the larger community, but she believes it to be the responsibility of church groups to work towards bringing different groups of people together. In addition, she describes some of the different kinds of work her church did to help disadvantaged people living in the community.
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Oral History Interview with Julia Peaks de-Heer, January 8, 1999. Interview K-0146. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JILL HEMMING:
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Now tell me about the changes in the neighborhood as a large number of
Latinos have moved in.
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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Oh boy. Oh. Well, it seems that whatever, all the trash. All the
anything—they bring in, bring it in. Old wrecked cars. Old
trash sitting out in the front of the yard. Broken bottles. I
don't care. This is not mine. I'm just here
visiting and I don't care what happened. It is really awful.
It is really awful. There has to be a limit of how far, how much a
neighborhood is supposed to accept, regardless of where. You want to be
a good neighbor and love one another, and that's true. But
they have to respect the neighborhood. It has to start here. Just
because this one throws something on the ground doesn't mean
that you have to do it. Say, "Hey, could you pick that up,
please? Because we are trying to keep this neighborhood
together." You don't have to just trash everything
and just throw it and feel that it is all right, it's okay.
And that's very unfair to the neighborhood. It's
very unfair for them to be able to come and do
this and get away with just piling—all of this brings mice,
whatever, all kinds of junk. I don't think it is fair to the
neighborhood because a lot of the trash that we had to get rid of
raking, and bagging up is from there. They should be made to do this
themselves. You put it here, you should clean it up.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Tell me the about the children.
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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All the children running up and down the street. It's a
tear-jerker. It's really sad because the children are running
around with no clothes, no shoes or anything. The church, we have soup
kitchen once a week and a clothes drive, a clothes give-away to try to
help some of the parents with the children, to feed. And I'm
not sure whether they are going to school, and if they are, how they are
looking. It is just too much over there.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Do you have a fair amount of Latino kids who come over for your clothes
drives and soup kitchen?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes. We don't have any trouble with the
food, saving any food, because we let them know and they come and get
their food and little bags of clothes. Some of them have gotten boxes of
shoes and clothes or bikes or whatever for the children. It's
not just limited to the neighborhood, to help every one, but in turn
everyone should help us try to keep the neighborhood together also.
- JILL HEMMING:
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How are interactions between people in the church when the Latinos come
in?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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Well, actually, people pretty much accept them. Pretty much so. As well
as they know how, I guess. I believe they accept them pretty good, some
of them. If you weigh it, I really don't know which way the
scale would tip. But I believe that's everywhere, because
when people are not ready to accept change, they are going to think they
way that they want to think or they feel at that time. Even going to
church they do have their little ways or thoughts. If they
wasn't here I've heard that. But that
don't stop, you're supposed to love your sisters
and brothers. Like everybody is supposed to love one another. So we have
to think about that, especially being part of the church. You just
can't say I love mine and not love yours. What is that
showing. God is love. He loves everybody.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Now the neighborhood had declined before they ever moved in?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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Yes. Yes.
- JILL HEMMING:
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They just moved into that was already—
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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—that was already, yes.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Everybody has got to, if it's going to work out, everybody
still has got to live there together. How do you think things can
improve, or what do you think needs to happen?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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You know what, actually I believe, and I will stand on this, if they see
people doing things to bring the neighborhood up, I actually believe
that they will contribute also. It is just not, like I'm just
doing this. Yes, I believe that everybody would come together. It would
be a unity there. Because they see. Well, I'll help. Yes. I
believe once we get started, full blast. Yes, there would be unity. And
who knows, they'll probably go to one of the churches.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Do you think that, really, that they are such newcomers many of them have
even had the opportunity to be part of the neighborhood association, or
be part of a congregation that is working to clean things up. None of
them have really—
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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No, no. The only time really, when we had that march in September. They
came down and we had an interpreter. They were there. So, yes.
You're right, bringing that in front. Because no one has
really tried to relate. So they are just going with the flow of what is
happening on Hopkins Street, really, at this time. This would be the
first time except last fall. And it was a tremendous turnout, not just
from Hopkins Street, but a tremendous turnout of different cultures.
- JILL HEMMING:
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How do you think that happened? How did that come to be there was such
good involvement?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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Well, good organization.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Who were the other folks involved to bring people out?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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We had Larissa Sibel, Terry Allebaugh. Larissa got some flyers. And we
distributed flyers concerning it. And we she had an interpreter, someone
who made sure that it was known that someone would be there to
interpret. This is why the turnout, because it was advertised. And, of
course, Barbara was going up and down the street to let them know, come
to our march. Good organization.
- JILL HEMMING:
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Let's keep talking about the adult leaders that you remember
in your neighborhood growing up. How can the neighborhood run well? Do
you think your church could be a part of the process of educating the
Latino newcomers on how to be part of the civic pride and community?
- JULIA PEAKS DE-HEER:
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You know what, really, yes. I'm not sure everyone. We had two
members that spoke Spanish. The only thing we would need someone to
interpret. I'm sure one went out. Well, they have their own
ministry now. But I'm sure, if we get the right resources and
show ourselves friendly, that a great response
will. Because, one day, let me tell you something that happened. I had
car trouble, and people were passing by, and it was, they
didn't hardly speak English, but they knew that I was in
distress and stopped and helped. And I tried to pay, and they said no.
So, if you show yourself friendly, you'll get a friend. But
if you show yourself otherwise—so yes, the church,
that's the responsibility of the church, I feel, is to reach
out to all people.