Well first, Babcock Foundation had committed $200,000 in 1982. Before I
came back to this state, the request had come into LISC from Irwin
Miller, and George Autry had arranged for Mike Sviriridoff to come down
and talk with Governor Hunt and Joe Grimsley. And they had gotten
$200,000 from Babcock but had been turned down, for reasons—I was not
involved—but it was probably the Wake Forest commitment, they'd been
turned down by Z. Smith Reynolds after having been encouraged to submit
a proposal. So when I got into it in the fall of 1983, first of all, the
question was whether it should be a project that focused around Rocky
Mount and its labor market, meaning Halifax and Wilson Counties or
whether it should be a bigger area because there was so little community
based leadership in the region. The study team that I mentioned before
recommended that the area be eastern North Carolina because we didn't
think that money could be raised in the Rocky Mount area commensurate
with the requirement or that the local leadership would be supportive.
And our initial canvas of potential in the region—that is, that I knew
or Art Campbell or Nathan or Bill Duncan had discovered—was pretty well
scattered. So after we made that recommendation, we knew we had $200,000
from Babcock, and we knew that we had
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from Ford. So Juanita and I organized a meeting in the late winter of
1984, I guess we held it at the Europa, for banks and other corporations
and foundations. And I won't say that it was a greatly successful
meeting. Mike Sviriridoff came down and talked and made a very good
presentation. But this was before North Carolina's banks had been really
exposed to the possibilities in low income communities, and the
Community Reinvestment Act was not yet a reality to them. So while they
said, "Well, we'll do a little bit," or they were equivocal, it was the
foundation's that were really… Babcock put up $200,000. Cummings Engine
Foundation put up $50,000. North Carolina Mutual Life Insurance Company
committed themselves to make loans up to $100,000. Then we had a $20,000
loan commitment from Mechanics and Farmers Bank, and a $5,000 grant and
a $5,000 load commitment from People's Bank. Let me see, we started out
with $420,000. Well, I can supply that. But that was in
January-February, and we made follow-up visits to most of those people,
and we'd gotten some responses, some turndowns and some support. In May
Saul Chafkin, who was Mike Sviriridoff's vice president, called me and
said, "Look, Ford has made this $500,000 available. You've got $420,000
available. Let's assume that you're going to get the funds."