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GOLDIE F. WELLS:

As far as our black children and black educators, have you just looked at the situation and found out where we are going?

LOISTINE DEFREECE:

Our black boys. I have had three suspensions for the rest of the year and two of them were black boys. It is sad and this is the first time I've had to suspend students for the rest of the year. They had folders with discipline problems and you reach a point where you have to do something. You have no choice and we are losing them. We just don't have the homes to support these students as we used to.

GOLDIE F. WELLS:

How many black teachers do you have?

LOISTINE DEFREECE:

Probably about eight out of sixty-two.

GOLDIE F. WELLS:

Do you have men?

LOISTINE DEFREECE:

Three and this is something that I want to work on with black boys--black role models. Judge Richardson who is a friend of mine is black and is from Robeson County. He is going to work with me. We have a black public defender and he is on the School Board and I have known him all of my life and he is going to work with me. We are going to get a group of black men together to work with these students. We are going to reach out into the factories where we do have some white collar black men working. We want to establish a partnership with the community to involve them in working with our black young men. We don't have as many problems with the black females as we do black males.

GOLDIE F. WELLS:

You may be the reason for that. Role models I think, seeing someone and seeing that there is a better way and they see how you dress and how you do and I think if we had more black men it would help.

LOISTINE DEFREECE:

And it is going to take the black men in the community to do it.