The State Legislative Council. We always tried, when we had these major
items, to get them adopted by the State Legislative Council and of
course, I worked closely with it during those years. The State
Conference for Social Service was a help, although it was not really a
strong lobbying group in any sense of the word. I would always go to the
meetings of the State Federation of Women's Clubs to try and get
endorsement for the programs in which we were interested. And I remember
once that . . . I've forgotten what the issue was now, they had begun
the discussion before I got there and were just about to turn down one
of the things that we were hopeful of getting in the next legislature.
So, I got there and got the floor and was able to explain it so that we
got their support. We worked with a great many groups in the state. For
example, we always had an active group among the Superintendents of
Child Caring Institutions. While they, of course, were particularly
interested in and even protective of their own programs, they were of
tremendous support in terms of improved child welfare legislation and
programs generally for children. We had an active Association of County
Directors of Public Welfare. In those days, we called them
Superintendents of Public Welfare. We worked very closely with them. We
had committees in all of our major areas and they came into Raleigh
regularly to meet with us, as we tried out new policies. We had a
committee on Public Assistance and we always went over proposed policy
changes and developments with the Committee of Superintendents. It was
during this period that we had what we called "Dear Superintendent of
Public Welfare Letters," which were the channel for sending out program
developments and new policy areas. The Committee on Personnel usually
was represented when we met with the Merit System Council to help in our
push for more emphasis on education, on training, on raising salaries,
that kind of thing. They were a useful force there.
And of course, the great thing about the County Superintendents of
Welfare was that most of them were close to their own delegations in the
legislature and so they could be extremely helpful in interpretation at
that level. So, you know, you use the channels that you have. But it is
always important that anybody who might be involved has a thorough
understanding, if possible, of the programs. One of the issues that I
think affected the way we worked with the legislature is that here in
North Carolina the committee membership changes session by session. In
many state legislatures, you have the same chairman for session after
session, so he becomes very knowledgeable about an area sort of like the
Congress, but in this state, where you always had a new group, one of
the first things that had to be done was to have sort of a general
information session. During the legislature, we worked on bills every
day. Very often, we had not only the Appropriations Committees in both
the house and the senate, which after all are your most important
committees, but we also had legislation in a number of other committees.
We had the Public Welfare Committee itself in each house. Sometimes, our
bills were sent to one of the judiciary committees. Each morning you had
to check which committees were meeting; we had to keep constantly in
touch with where our bills were; who needed to be contacted; what member
of the legislature perhaps needed a little note to be alert to a special
interest and so on. I always had somebody to help me. When I first went
into the Department, all of the legal advice came through the Attorney
General's office. And we really didn't have a position for an attorney,
but we soon were able to employ an attorney, because we had other
responsibilities under the law that made it very appropriate to have an
attorney on the staff.
He was always tremendously helpful in working with the legislature because I really couldn't begin to do it all
without some help. Then, Mr. R. Eugene Brown, who had been with the
Department for years, was very savvy about legislature matters and had
known many of the legislators over a long period of time. So, there were
always several of us who were working in this general area.