It was being developed, you see. We had already published the initial
finidings, "Impeach Judge Lynch" by the way, and there had been quite a
few press releases, it had been carried pretty widely on the general
situation. And then here was a place now, where the women could do their
thing and Mrs. Ames was a "women-do-their-thing" person. And that was
the kind of person she was. And she did it marvelously. O.K., now that's
number one. Number two: she did the second thing and she did it
superbly, so far as I know. And I had a chance to see it fairly close
range. And that was in her dealing with Lulu, the daughter. Mrs. Ames
told me one morning with tears in her eyes, she said, "Now, I've got to
leave this off," or something-else-something-else, "because Lulu needs
me." She said, "You know, something happened to me some years ago…"
these were not her words, but this was the essence of it… "and it's
indelibly in my make-up. Lulu was very, very sick and nearly died and
they thought she was going to die one day. Lulu thought maybe she was
going to die. And the next morning, when she was past it (whatever it
was may have been pneumonia, I don't know what) then Lulu looked at her
mother," Mrs. Ames says very searchingly, and
says, "Mama, don't you wish I had died last night?" And she says, "No,
dear. I'm glad you lived." O.K., now, so far as I know, her attitude
towards Lulu and her concern about Lulu and her help with Lulu, was
somehow or another geared back to this time when Lulu put her on the
mark.