Yes, to dictate, or that kind of thing. So then I talked to another
member of the Executive Committee who, while not particularly approving
of the decision to do it, was cognizant of the situation and wanted to
try to find a way that we could… So finally it really got down to the
point that it was known that it was going to come before the Executive
Committee at a given time, and I decided myself, in this case, that rank
was, I think we would make a rank of lecturer or something like that,
would not have been required, but I decided that it was prudent for me
not to bypass them since it was in the public domain. So I put it before
the Executive Committee. Now, I didn't know what the Executive Committee
would do about it. But, of course, I presented it and defended the
appointment. But it was all in the public domain, over radio and
television and press and everything else while this was going on.
Because that illustrates what I was just saying about the process of
integration. The desegregation of institutions was a complex one involving different elements and different stages
and so on that went on over a period of time and is still going on, of
course, and changing mores and so on. That was one illustration in
which, in a sense of the faculty, in this instance the faculty of the
School of Social Work, had in a sense presented the University with, as
they saw it, no problem at all. I mean, this was a man who, as they saw
it, qualified to do this and would be a valuable staff member, and these
other instances that were matters of the public domain were not their
concern. Now, another incident, again involving the School of Social
Work, involved a black activist. Again, this shows how my memory, I
can't call up these names so quickly. Howard Fuller, I think Howard was
his first name, anyway, his name is Fuller. He was a professed black
activist, but nevertheless, he had certain qualities and experience that
would make him useful for the School of Social Work. The Dean, again,
did me the courtesy, I guess you would call it courtesy, to come in and
tell me that they had decided they would like to make this appointment,
and they wanted to know what the University would do about it. Well, I
said, "If the School decides to bring that appointment to the
Chancellor, we will consider it on its merits, just as we would any
other appointment." And I said, "But you must be aware that this is not
an appointment that will be viewed by everybody as just like any other
appointment."